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DOUG GREAN interview & photos by Christine Natanael |
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Grean: not necessarily a glittering star or searing comet in the rock pantheon
of the type that the tabloids and stalkerazzi go bananas over, not necessarily
a household name of the type that you’d hear 15-year old rock stoners
spout up over bong hits in idol worship when reeling off the names of guitar
gods. (Although, maybe they should.) But Grean has been silently ever-present
in the background of the rock charts for quite some time now. Don’t
believe me? Well, if you’ve got The Stoned Immaculate: A Tribute
To The Doors or Shangri-La Dee Da by Stone Temple Pilots,
Tweekend or Community Service by The Crystal Method, C’Mon,
C’Mon by Sheryl Crow, or the Contraband or Libertad
discs by Velvet Revolver, then you’ve already heard some of Grean’s
guitar work and knob-twiddling finesse.
Although his major credits are all in the realm of the studio or behind-the-scenes as far as the public seems to know, this has not always been the case. Doug, a multi-instrumentalist, had been playing for well over a decade, first in the New York tri-state area then in New Orleans, before making the move to Los Angeles and taking up residence on the more technological side of the musician’s experience. Owing to an absolutely unexpected situation that could singularly be explained as an “only in L.A.” surreal kind of reality thing, Grean soon met Scott Weiland. Before long, the two discovered they had very similar tastes in music and the creative juices began to flow at a collaborative snail’s pace. Leisurely, languidly, yes, almost lavishly, the two steadily worked on writing, recording, and generally fussing around with sounds and concepts. Consciously avoiding the avenues Weiland had already passed down, they sought to use anything at their disposal, from vintage recording equipment to unusual instruments to make sure “Happy” In Galoshes have a fresh sound unlike anything Scott had done before, with either Stone Temple Pilots or Velvet Revolver. Now, ten years down the road, Doug Grean is Weiland’s creative partner in many ventures. His guitar playing, songwriting, and production skills are front and center on Weiland’s newest solo release, “Happy” In Galoshes, making him an integral part of the overall sound. He is the musical director for the band as well, making sure all is indeed “happy”, or at least somewhat content and at least somewhat close to schedule as they tour in support of the new disc. Grean was kind enough to take a moment out of his touring schedule to answer some questions for the Crusher readers.
DOUG GREAN: As a child I was shy and introverted—also
kind of obsessive. I would find something I was into and be very, very
into it for a few years and then move on. Photography was one of my obsessions.
By the time I was 11 I had built (with my brother) a darkroom in the basement.
Eventually, around the age of 12, I found mandolin and then guitar, and
it's been that ever since. DG: I remember listening to Chicago 8-tracks my dad
had back in the early ‘70s. The first record I bought was Don McLean's
American Pie. I bought that with my birthday money for xmas
one year and I played it over and over again on my Mickey Mouse record
player. Before that it would have been church music. I was in the boys’
choir for years. DG: I wanted to learn how to play the clarinet and took
lessons for three years in elementary school. But the teacher really turned
me off to it, so I gave up on music for a few years until I found the
guitar. DG: I knew I wanted to be a professional musician from the time I played my first paid gig at the age of 16. It was somebody’s sweet 16 party. I still can't believe that someone was willing to pay us to play! My artistic side definitely comes from my mother. She was always and
still is very supportive. She always seemed to believe that I would be
successful in this business. My father was a different story. DG: My brother was a big Deadhead and he was a few years
older. He got us all into the Dead. And now as I look back I realize that
it was a great way to learn how to improvise. Because we played almost
all Grateful Dead songs it gave us an excuse to just go off. We'd pick
a chord progression and play it for 50 minutes. That's a great way to
practice. Improvisation is still a huge part of everything I do—playing,
producing, writing—all of it. DG: New Orleans was the best musical education I could have ever had. All the greats were there and easily accessible—Snooks Eglin, Earl King, Walter Wolfman Washington, The Neville Bros. All these great cats were just around and if you were around you could hang with them, party with them, and eventually, if you were good enough, sit in with them. I sat in with or had them sit in with my band all the time. It was just the way New Orleans was, at least when I was there. I really studied New Orleans’ style of Funk/Blues/Jazz. And I learned
a lot. I think what I learned there changed the way I play and gave me
the sound I have today. Not to brag, but I think my feeling and sense
of time is completely different than someone that didn't spend ten years
playing down there. My pocket is way deeper because of my time in N.O. DG: Electric guitar is still my favorite stringed instrument.
I'm playing a guitar that was custom made for me by The Electrical
Guitar Company in Florida. I'm also really into the banjo right now.
My favorite non-stringed instrument is the Fender Rhodes. DG: I had to start learning how to record music because
I got sick of paying other people to record my band! I took some classes
and begged friends with studios to let me experiment on their gear, and
over time I figured it all out. I really think it’s in the ears,
not the gear. But people will argue about that forever. I can't say which
I enjoy more. They are both what I love to do and if I could go back and
forth every few months I’d be a happy man. DG: Once when I was a intern a long time ago I was working
on the first Frank Black CD. He had his friends, They Might Be Giants,
over to hang during the session. I was asked to go on a run and pick up
some muffins. When I got back I handed a bag of muffins to one of the
Johns, and he said, "What's this?" And I said, "They might
be muffins," and then just smiled and walked away. On that same session
Frank Black, whose real name is Charles, used to come in on Sunday to
listen to rough mixes. Since there was nobody else working, I would run
things for him and we'd just sit there and smoke pot and talk about the
songs. He was very cool to me. DG: 1) Silence. 2) The Meters. 3) Anyone who writes
a really good song. DG: I'm not very disciplined at the moment. As a producer/engineer
one of my big jobs is to be the guy in the room with the least A.D.D.
In other words I'm the one who has to keep things flowing in a logical
linear fashion. So that's it for discipline. DG: Jerry Garcia. James Booker. Professor Longhair. DG: Wow this question could be it's own multi-page interview. I try to use a lot of vintage microphones and pre-amps and as many vintage tube amps as I can get my hands on—old guitars and all that. But I also use a lot of newer stuff like Protools. I still use some analog tape, but not as much as I used to. Live I use a custom guitar made for me by The Electrical Guitar Company. It's primarily made from aluminum and has a very unique tone. I use vintage Traynor YBA-1 amps made by a Canadian company. I have one that's from 1967 and one from 1971. They've all been rebuilt and modified for my tastes. I do a lot of this rebuilding myself and whatever I can't handle I farm out to my tech. It's really hard to recreate all the textures on the HIG record.
But we do the best we can. I carry a rack of effects that's pretty extensive.
I can't list them all here because, well, it would be too boring. DG: Scott and I own Lavish. He had this big 2000 square foot space that had a little gear in it, but you couldn't really call it a working studio. I came in about ten years ago and started rebuilding and rewiring. I also moved in all of my own gear. Now after 10 years we have a very functional studio that I've made some really good records in. Softdrive is an indie record company that is owned by Scott, Dana Dufine, and I. We have distribution through RED and also we've partnered with New West Records. We have a small stable of artists. Scott Weiland, The Color Turning, Something to Burn and Tommy Joe Wilson. We plan to release three records this year. I met Scott about 13 years ago. I had checked my brother into rehab.
I went back the next day to check on him and he had gotten a new room
mate in the middle of the night. It was Scott. So that's when we met.
But we didn't start working together at that time. About a year later
he ended up in another rehab my brother was running the kitchen at. So
we got to talking one day and he invited me to come down to his studio
and throw around some ideas and try to get his place back together. Within
a few weeks of that we had written "Big Black Monster". It's
on the new record and it was actually written in October 1999. DG: Well this was kind of answered above, but I will
go into more detail. The first writing session was, like I said above,
"Big Black Monster". What happened was I was at the studio waiting
for him, (he's habitually late) and he called me from the car and sang
me a bass line idea and asked me to lay it down. So I recorded what he
gave me over the phone and then I wrote a chorus before he showed up.
And that chorus really knocked his socks off, so he sat down and wrote
and sang the melody. He played a baritone guitar part for the verse then
left. And I filled in more of the other instrumentation after he left.
And that was it. He's not your typical writer, and I think he was looking
for someone like me that played various instruments, engineered, wrote,
and produced, and could do it from voice mail messages and do it well.
I mean, he's so busy and so scattered that's just one of the methods he
needs to use sometimes. Sometimes we write the old-fashioned way where
we just sit in a room with an acoustic guitar, but more and more it's
become this kind of touch and go "here's a idea—okay here's
my reaction idea—okay here's my melody... etc., etc.” I have
to admit it's a very strange way of going about things, but I think that
not doing things traditionally is what gives this record it's sound. DG: Scott's had a lot of ups and downs. But mostly I'd
say the main inspirations for his lyrics were his difficult relationship
with his wife, the birth of his kids, his battle with addiction, and finally,
the death of his brother. Those were probably the big ones. That's more
of a question for him. I don't write the lyrics. I give a line or word
here and there, but that's his territory. DG: There were times when he would show up extremely
intoxicated. There were other times when his wife would come and major
drama would ensue. DG: “Pictures and Computers.” It's over
seven minutes long. It does not follow any usual song form. The instrumentation
is totally whacked. And I love the writing and playing I did on that song.
I love that song and wish it got more attention. DG: Probably "Blister on My Soul". It's about
his brother and some of the wreckage he left behind in all our lives before
he passed. It's pretty heavy stuff. DG: That was the one song I was not really that involved
in. All I did was record the vocals, (I guess I produced the vocals),
and I played a little guitar. But the idea to do it was Paul’s [Oakenfold]
and the programming was done by his guy, Jeff Turzo. But I do love that
song, and I'm a big fan of Carlos. DG: Nikola Tesla, Bob Moog, Professor Leon Theremin, Aimee Mann, Wayne Coyne. CN: What is your greatest fear? DG: Losing the people closest to me, (including my dogs). DG: Hillary Clinton Thanks so much. Doug Grean |
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...and the music descended directly from the light into the strings of his instrument as if by some form of arcane magick...

Scott Weiland & Doug Grean - The Fillmore @ Irving Plaza, NYC 12/5/08